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Refuting Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body - Mike Felker

by ToesUp in

i found this video very well done.. mike felker is the chapter director of ratio christi at georgia state university.

check out this video on youtube:.

https://youtu.be/grs8m6tdq9g.

problemaddict 2

There has to be a way to refute it in less than 90 minutes. :)

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What should i do

by Akid48 in

i have my meeting tomorrow and i dont know if i should act like im having a good time or not.. from akid48 .

read my last post i made to know whats going on in my life.

You are 13. You can be good at whatever you want! Really start killing school. Find a sport to play. Figure out your passions, and then fight for them. its hard for a parent to see their child excited and working towards something, and deny them of it. Just say you will "make up" the meeting or something. give them a way out.

Keep on learning. Anyone here if they could go back to 13......wow! :)

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They lied about methuselah tree at convention

by hoser in

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there was a part about pine trees in california mountains at regional convention.

the brother/organization lied about how old they are.

he said oldest tree is 4200 years old when it is actually 5000 years old.

problemaddict 2

So they are contradicting themselves with that article. Its too hilarious. Whoever wrote it didn't even think about the flood!

Unless of course they actually believe this tree made it through a global flood and survived under water for what....30 days? That valley isn't very high. Wouldn't exactly be the first to see the sky after a flood. Lol.

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What in the flying F....????

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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https://www.facebook.com/tupuebloesmipueblojehova/videos/578539175868967/?hc_ref=arrvbqq6myd5outlusr6zufmvffwsvr_duxl_fdriuhhniiuesiylhi43gybtziknxwthis video gave me cancer..

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Reminded me of Yub Nub for some reason.

Maybe because of the puppets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6vAuS0KNs

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Magistrate says Jehovah's Witnesses are complicit because they failed to report to authorities

by jw news 2017 in

"former jehovah's witness jailed for historical sex offences against young sisters... .

sentencing magistrate bernadette boss noted it was "most unfortunate" that once again a church had failed to notify the authorities about an allegation of sexual abuse.. that made the church complicit in the matters and "appears to have exacerbated the effect on the victims of the offence," dr boss said...".

quoted text from the web page :.

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Doubtful.....WOW!

Thank you for sharing that. I think we have all done things we now look back at and are ashamed of. I am glad you were honest with the authorities.

May I ask, that honesty and admittance that you felt not all that could have been done.....was done, has that affected your relationship with those elders? Are you openly out?

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My mums dying she refuses blood transfusion...the horror.

by Witness 007 in

mum has a mild form of lukeimia if she took blood like normal people she could live to be 100. but no, anointed sisters dont compromise jehovah wont allow it.

so here i am moving to sydney for one month going to hospital everyday putting my life on hold to watch my mother die slowly.

watching her gasp for air, struggle to breath.

problemaddict 2

Ugh. I hate to hear of it. Of course the narrative is that this sort of thing just never happens anymore. Blood is never really "necessary" anymore, and is dangerous.

Anyway to speak to the guys coming around about the real deal?

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I'm writing a letter to my country's branch

by Ray Frankz in

hi everyone.. well, i have some good news.

after having a terrible moment arguing with my mom about the 1914 teaching and all it evolves (she get really upset and i felt great regret for starting the argument) she came to me next day and started talking with a much more open mind, and she talked about a lot of concerns too.. she and my father naivily expressed the wish to write to bethel to ask about 607bc.

i told in all the possible ways it wouldn't work.

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JB - Prepare to get disfellowshipped.

I almost did a spit take here. Haha. Anyways, I was thinking the same thing. I almost sent a letter about blood (it was 9 pages long), then I learned from people on here, that letter would just go to my elders and they would be referred to deal with me. Well.....I already knew they weren't able to have an intelligent conversation about it so I didn't send it. I am not DF'd probably for only that reason.

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Am I selfish?

by Jules Saturn in

tonight i had an argument with both my parents.

my parents are aware of my feelings towards the organization, and it saddens them because i am their first born son.

they had high expectations of me, my father dreamt of him and i serving together as elders.

problemaddict 2

Jules,

Not all selfishness is bad. For example....you could compromise your values and integrity, stay a JW, deal with the resulting depression and drudgery that comes with going but not believing, probably end up getting yourself in trouble.....all while being miserable.

Or you could live an authentic life, reach out to your parents and others with love and positivity, and continue to evole as a person and your belief system.

In the end.....which person better serves their family, their friends, and humanity?

P.S. - I would stay away from the word cult, or other pejorative "triggers". Tell them you have to obey your conscience. You are taking the more difficult road. You simply do not believe they are being chosen. And honestly....I would reconsider disassociating. Give your family a way to speak to you.

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BBC News "The ex-Jehovah's Witnesses shunned by their families"

by snare&racket in

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bbc news website has this linked on front page.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40704990.

problemaddict 2

Ugh. the problem is as Steve pointed out, the glaring inaccuracies here whether due to bad journalism, or simply dishonesty on the part of someone he interviewed for the sake of sentimentalization......take away from the larger point. Shunning exists, and is carried out for stupid reasons.

JW's reading this will just call it "apostate lies" and laugh it off, rather than reading a story that connects them to emotion, and maybe thinking about it.

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I went Elder Hunting yesterday!

by Tight Pants Twinkle Toes in

win my first post i introduced you to tweedle dee and tweedle dum, ( surprise elders visit ).

well last sunday night i got phone call from t- dum, he informed me that t-dee was listening in, no doubt practicing his short hand.

t-dum went on to say how he was concerned that we were making the biggest mistake of our lives, yada yada.

problemaddict 2

Not being able to have a rational discussion, or talk about the merits of an action, only expecting back slaps and atta boys........thats the lingering JW personality guys.

People can think and feel differently about subject and actions in the real world...and its ok.

I personally think treating my former brothers with disdain and disrespect doesn't actually accomplish anything but feed into their narrative of the unhinged apostate. Its why people screaming at convensions is counterproductive to the work many of us do to break down the barriers erected by the GB in the minds of their followers.

But I also recognize that the organization will not let you leave with your dignity. they stress your own concepts of integrity with their double talk, and going after you and your family which has consequences in your relationships.

So I advocate a balanced approach.....but I also get it when people want their pound of flesh.

Having a conversation about these things, and presenting your arguments....shouldn't be something that is as negative and divisive as these last couple of pages.